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New film reclaims title Birth of a Nation & Fox paid 17m

1 Name: Anonymous : 2016-02-01 00:33
Have y'all heard about this?

http://variety.com/2016/film/festivals/sundance-birth-of-a-nation-1201688520/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birth_of_a_Nation
2 Name: Anonymous : 2016-02-01 00:49
Yes very much -- and there was an article about this film in The Washington Post yesterday or Friday.
3 Name: Anonymous : 2016-02-01 01:02
Kind of a shocker to me -you'd think they'd want to avoid any kind of association with the Griffth film, which has now become more notorious than legendary.
4 Name: Anonymous : 2016-02-01 01:18
It's a very purposeful kick in the balls of Griffith's films and its place in film history. It got really lucky, too, to premier right after the whole Oscarssowhite controversy, which I'm sure jacked up the price something fierce with all these studios desperate to have African American-centric films in the awards race next year!
5 Name: Anonymous : 2016-02-01 01:21
Good point, anon.
6 Name: Anonymous : 2016-02-01 01:24
I agree. Who would want this moniker on a film?
It conjures the bad old days.

Next: A George Clooney Production of 'Triumph of the Will'.

sheesh
7 Name: Anonymous : 2016-02-01 01:29
>>6
You are a complete idiot, aren't you?
8 Name: Anonymous : 2016-02-01 01:46
One thing's for sure: good, bad or indifferent, if it doesn't score some major Oscar nominations next year this year's fracas is going to look like a minor difference of opinion.
9 Name: Anonymous : 2016-02-01 01:52
>>8
I find it amusant that 14 years ago the Oscars were considered too black, and this year they are considered not black enough.
10 Name: Anonymous : 2016-02-01 01:59
Good thing the 1915 Birth of a Nation isn't owned by Warners.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/butler-title-feud-studios-article-1.1406047
11 Name: Anonymous : 2016-02-01 02:05
Though Raymond Rohauer, who regularly claimed ownership of every silent movie ever made and once even tried to copyright academy leader (the countdown at the front of every reel of film), did reportedly threaten to sue ITV back in the 70s after Stanley Baxter (if memory serves) did a sketch called Birth of an Asian on one of his shows. Apparently they called his bluff and he slunk off.
12 Name: Anonymous : 2016-02-01 02:11
Next thing you know someone will try using the word "Casablanca" in a film title.
13 Name: Anonymous : 2016-02-01 02:17
>>12

Dear Warner Bros.,

Apparently there is more than one way of conquering a city and holding it as your own. For example, up to the time that we contemplated making this picture, I had no idea that the city of Casablanca belonged exclusively to Warner Brothers. However, it was only a few days after our announcement appeared that we received your long, ominous legal document warning us not to use the name Casablanca.

It seems that in 1471, Ferdinand Balboa Warner, your great-great-grandfather, while looking for a shortcut to the city of Burbank, had stumbled on the shores of Africa and, raising his alpenstock (which he later turned in for a 100 shares of common), named it Casablanca.

I just don't understand your attitude. Even if you plan on releasing your picture, I am sure that the average movie fan could learn in time to distinguish between Ingrid Bergman and Harpo. I don't know whether I could, but I certainly would like to try.

You claim that you own Casablanca and that no one else can use that name without permission. What about "Warner Brothers"? Do you own that too? You probably have the right to use the name Warner, but what about the name Brothers? Professionally, we were brothers long before you were. We were touring the sticks as the Marx Brothers when Vitaphone was still a gleam in the inventor's eye, and even before there had been other brothers - the Smith Brothers; the Brothers Karamazov; Dan Brothers, an outfielder with Detroit; and Brother, Can You Spare a Dime?. (This was originally "Brothers, Can You Spare a Dime?" but this was spreading a dime pretty thin, so they threw out one brother, gave all the money to the other one, and whittled it down to "Brother, Can You Spare a Dime?")

Now Jack, how about you? Do you maintain that yours is an original name? Well it's not. It was used long before you were born. Offhand, I can think of two Jacks - Jack of Jack and the Beanstalk, and Jack the Ripper, who cut quite a figure in his day.

As for you, Harry, you probably sign your checks sure in the belief that you are the first Harry of all time and that all other Harrys are impostors. I can think of two Harrys that preceded you. There was Lighthouse Harry of Revolutionary fame and a Harry Appelbaum who lived on the corner of 93rd Street and Lexington Avenue. Unfortunately, Appelbaum wasn't too well-known. The last I heard of him, he was selling neckties at Weber and Heilbroner.

Now about the Burbank studio. I believe this is what you brothers call your place. Old man Burbank is gone. Perhaps you remember him. He was a great man in a garden. His wife often said Luther had 10 green thumbs.

What a witty woman she must have been! Burbank was the wizard who crossed all those fruits and vegetables until he had the poor plants in such confused and jittery condition that they could never decide whether to enter the dining room on the meat platter or the dessert dish.

This is pure conjecture, of course, but who knows - perhaps Burbank's survivors aren't too happy with the fact that a plant that grinds out pictures on a quota settled in their town, appropriated Burbank's name and uses it as a front for their films.

It is even possible that the Burbank family is prouder of the potato produced by the old man than they are of the fact that your studio emerged Casablanca or even Gold Diggers of 1931.

This all seems to add up to a pretty bitter tirade, but I assure you it's not meant to. I love Warners. Some of my best friends are Warner Brothers. It is even possible that I am doing you an injustice and that you, yourselves, know nothing about this dog-in-the-Wanger attitude.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to discover that the heads of your legal department are unaware of this absurd dispute, for I am acquainted with many of them and they are fine fellows with curly black hair, double-breasted suits and a love of their fellow man that out-Saroyans Saroyan.

I have a hunch that his attempt to prevent us from using the title is the brainchild of some ferret-faced shyster, serving a brief apprenticeship in your legal department. I know the type well - hot out of law school, hungry for success, and too ambitious to follow the natural laws of promotion. This bar sinister probably needled your attorneys, most of whom are fine fellows with curly black hair, double-breasted suits, etc., into attempting to enjoin us.

Well, he won't get away with it! We'll fight him to the highest court! No pasty-faced legal adventurer is going to cause bad blood between the Warners and the Marxes.

We are all brothers under the skin, and we'll remain friends till the last reel of A Night in Casablanca goes tumbling over the spool.

Sincerely,

Groucho Marx
14 Name: Anonymous : 2016-02-01 02:23
>>13
Thanks for posting that anon. I haven't read that letter for years and it still makes me laugh.

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