I hate them because they are not similar to the original comics. Batman is a detective, he is not a superhero. Batman is supposed to be lighthearted, he is not a horrifically dark character. Joker's face is not painting, his face is the aftereffect after he fall in a vat of chemicals during his career as Red Hood.

These the new ones or Burton ones

>>2
I hate all of them. I will also (most likely) hate the future one because these films are not faithful to the source material.

Batman is supposed to be lighthearted

well that's a damned lie

have you ever read any batman comics because it doesn't sound like it, troll

Yes. I have read the Batman comics; the original ones from 1939 to after the original creators stopped making more of these comics.

Originally Batman was killing criminals, sometimes with a GUN no less. He was a dark vigilante bent on revenge, not justice. (Read the first year).

But as superheroes became more prominent and lighthearted, so did Batman. That's when editors introduced Robin, lightened his costume's color scheme, and made him appear less like a gargoyle. And he smiled.

Then Frank Miller came along 40 years later and brought him back to his dark, tormented roots, and helped change the approach of comic books.

Originally Batman was killing criminals, sometimes with a GUN no less. He was a dark vigilante bent on revenge, not justice. (Read the first year)

Originally, that comic is not canon and was written 48 years after the original Batman comic.

But as superheroes became more prominent and lighthearted, so did Batman. That's when editors introduced Robin, lightened his costume's color scheme, and made him appear less like a gargoyle. And he smiled.

"Editors" did not introduce Robin, he was Batman's original partner since the very first comic in 1939. He originally was lighthearted, but as he became more prominent, he also became dark, whereas his costume's color scheme also changed from light blue to black.

Then Frank Miller came along 40 years later and brought him back to his dark, tormented roots, and helped change the approach of comic books.

Frank Miller is neither Bob Kane nor Bill Finger, his comics of Batman are also not canon, but officially-publicized fiction made by enthusiasts. Also, Frank Miller changed the original concept of Batman, if anything.

Editors" did not introduce Robin, he was Batman's original partner since the very first comic in 1939. He originally was lighthearted, but as he became more prominent, he also became dark, whereas his costume's color scheme also changed from light blue to black.

Batman debuted in May 1939 in Detective Comics #27. Robin debuted in Detective Comics #38 in 1940. He was not there from the beginning.

And yes, he did indeed kill criminals in his early stories, even Robin did.

If you think there are too many superhero movies, you need to see more movies.

>>8

Batman debuted in May 1939 in Detective Comics #27. Robin debuted in Detective Comics #38 in 1940. He was not there from the beginning.

That is correct. Thanks for the correction. The point still stands, however.

And yes, he did indeed kill criminals in his early stories, even Robin did.

That he killed criminals does not make him less lighthearted.

From Batman's very first appearance: https://bigotherbigother.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/detective-comics-27-pg06-detail1.jpg

From his third appearance: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vHbI7jz6L8Q/S_P4kRMZIUI/AAAAAAAAAtg/az_YcRMSB2g/s1600/4353752771_47b4210bd2_o.png

I could post more examples too.

I never said there did not exist violence in the Batman comics. I simply thought that other person's comment was referring to "Batman: Year One" and dismissed his argument on that basis.

If you read my original post, you would have noticed that I said Red Hood fell into a vat of chemicals that turned him into Joker. It is without a doubt violent, as average cartoons are today, but not dark at all.

Agreed. I said read the first year, not "Year One."

In 1939, Batman did all those things before Robin was introduced in 1940.

I see. Sorry for the confusion.

Well, that does not change the fact that the current Batman films are simply a shadow of the original Batman.

>>13
yeah, you're trolling everyone. bye

Then Frank Miller came along 40 years later and brought him back to his dark, tormented roots, and helped change the approach of comic books.

No, Denny O' Neil and Neal Adams did in 1969.

I can agree to a certain extent with that assessment, but he still wore blue.

I agree. Going dark could only work one time and it really did for me. But that was it.

I think apart from Batman & Robin they were all really well made. I can't say if they're close to how the comics were, but definitely enjoyable.

Batman is supposed to be lighthearted

And if you're talking about the Nolan films, he came closer to being a detective there than in any other film incarnation. People were complaining about the films being too much like police procedurals.

Man, I'm getting sick of the DC fanboys saying DC is for adults only and trying to make everything they've done sound dark and adult, but stuff like this is just as bad, if not worse.

I hate the Batman films

I hate them because they are not similar to the original comics. Batman is a detective, he is not a superhero.

So you like the Batman comics, just not the Batman movies. Okay, I can live with that.

Get taste, bookworm.

You should stop watching capitalistic films about producing the most generic piece of degenerate garbage for the hoi polloi to earn greedy and unjust money.

Read the actual comics, you may, for once, actually start reading instead of watching mind-controlling nonsense that is meant to make you into a sheep of the mainstream.

>>22
wow a troll and a conspiracy lunatic what a package

You are ignored (considering your attitude towards people of different opinions than yours, as if such opinions never existed or can not be expressed, which is outright idiotic).

>>24
what do I care ? you will be gone and you will be on to another board in a matter of a days.

I love them.

I'm guessing you like The Adam West TV show? That's a good, clever show, but yeah...

Also Batman was not originally lighthearted, it wasn't until after his introduction that the stories got more safe and happier. Even after Robin's introduction, the stories still managed to be dark, with the original clayface and Two-Face's first appearances in particular being quite gruesome.

My friend, I always liked "Batman & Robin" from the 1940s, do you remember it? It was the film that was closest to the source material, perhaps because it was released around the same time.

I never actually watched Adam West's version of Batman, I only watched one episode of that series. I mainly referred to the original comics.