http://www.jpost.com/Blogs/The-Camels-Hump/The-Arab-MindThe-Western-Mind-436303

Note that this has nothing to do with race. The issue is not nature, but nurture, i.e. the culture in which people are raised. Despite this, prepare for lefties to scream "racism".

too bad, really.....once Islam was the religion of rational thougt and science/culture...

Bagdhad was once the centre of intellectual thought....Going to study there was like going to MIT....

Now, they're ignorant goat-fuckers...

"oo bad, really.....once Islam was the religion of rational thougt and science/culture...Bagdhad was once the centre of intellectual thought....Going to study there was like going to MIT...."

That is true. The West and the Muslim world have switched places. The key figure in this was the Islamic philosopher al-Ghazali. He, more than anyone else, put an end to the Islamic Golden Age and brought in its opposite. He opposed logic, reason, science, and even philosophy itself as un-Islamic. He even named his major work "The Incoherence of the Philosophers". Another Islamic philosopher, Averroes, tried to argue against him in work called "The Incoherence of the Incoherence", but it was too late; the damage had been done. The Muslim world sank into a Dark Age from which it has yet to emerge. Meanwhile, Europeans like Thomas Aquinas, ironically acting under the influence of Averroes (whose works had been translated from Arabic into Latin), championed reason as compatible with Christianity. The Renaissance soon followed.

Bagdhad was once the centre of intellectual thought....Going to study there was like going to MIT

And the christian world were the uncultured, ignorant, primitive savages.

There are ways to discuss differences between cultures (norms, values, world views, etc.) without making bigoted sweeping generalizations by injecting race or ethnicity. This was tl;dr but judging from the title of the article plus your enjoyment of it, my guess is that the author failed.

That said the Salifi problem is an Arab one not a Muslim one so at least the article got that right. A Christian analogy, for example, is that no Christian living in or from Italy or France would ever take part in a rattlesnake biting ceremony. That type of craziness is limited to Christians living in certain rural parts of North America.

"That said the Salifi problem is an Arab one not a Muslim one so at least the article got that right."

I disagree. Islamic fanaticism is also a problem in non-Arab Muslim countries like Iran, Pakistan, and Afghanistan.

Islamic fanaticism is also a problem in non-Arab Muslim countries like Iran, Pakistan, and Afghanistan.

Not a problem in Iran, at least not nearly to the degree of ISIS or al Qaeda. I don't get the hate of Iran or pre-civil war Syria. The embassy incident is almost as old as the Vietnam War (we're friends with Vietnam now). They don't really promote international terrorism (how many terrorist acts has Hezbollah committed in the past 20 years, honestly). Sure Iran is very backward with anti-democratic rule, but so is China and a lot of other countries we have normal relations with. And none of them hold a candle to Saudi Arabia. Seems to me the hatred between Israel and Iran/Syria is mostly just a byproduct of the Cold War.

The Taliban in Pakistan and Afghanistan are radical Sunnis and a client organization of Saudi Arabia. They were funded by and created by the Saudis (and the U.S.) during and after the war with Russia. Saudis are the ones who paid for all the madrassas in that region which took in all the orphans from that war and brainwashed them. Taliban literally means "student."

And when I say Saudis, it's not the government/royal family (although they did fund the Mujaheddin). It's the Saudi equivalents of the Koch Brothers. Lots of them. They're paying for this sh!t. And we're paying them every time we fill up our gas tanks.

"Not a problem in Iran, at least not nearly to the degree of ISIS or al Qaeda. I don't get the hate of Iran"

This is a country whose favorite slogan is "Death to America!", that holds conferences and cartoon contests devoted to Holocaust-denial, and that repeatedly calls for the annihilation of Israel.

"how many terrorist acts has Hezbollah committed in the past 20 years, honestly"

I'm not sure, but it ain't zero, that's for sure. Hezbollah has the dubious distinction of being the terrorist group that has murdered more Americans than any other group except al-Qaeda.

Just off the top of my head, Hezbollah bombed two targets in Argentina (an Israeli consulate and a Jewish community center), and captured two Israeli soldiers on the Israeli side of the border, triggering a war in 2006. Israel's retaliation angered a lot of Lebanese people, so Hezbollah has had to move more carefully. And now it is involved in the civil war in Syria, so it has less time to be involved with terrorism.

"Sure Iran is very backward with anti-democratic rule, but so is China and a lot of other countries we have normal relations with."

China does not repeatedly chant "Death to America!" It disagrees with the US on a lot of issues, but the venomous Iranian-type hatred isn't there.

"The Taliban in Pakistan and Afghanistan are radical Sunnis and a client organization of Saudi Arabia. They were funded by and created by the Saudis (and the U.S.) during and after the war with Russia. Saudis are the ones who paid for all the madrassas in that region which took in all the orphans from that war and brainwashed them."

That only means that Arabs are helping spread Islamic fanaticism to non-Arab Muslim countries. It does not mean, as you had said, that Islamic fanaticism is only a problem in the Arab world.

This is a country whose favorite slogan is "Death to America!", that holds conferences and cartoon contests devoted to Holocaust-denial, and that repeatedly calls for the annihilation of Israel.

Words. The fact is you haven't explained what makes them worse than China, let alone worse than Saudi Arabia. Just making an emotional plea when you know you're wrong, which is why you've always been a ridiculous person to argue with Vangelis.

Hezbollah has the dubious distinction of being the terrorist group that has murdered more Americans than any other group except al-Qaeda.

American SOLDIERS on duty as an occupying force. One can hardly call that terrorism. Maybe if the bomb fell from a plane you wouldn't have categorized it as such. SMH.

China does not repeatedly chant "Death to America!" It disagrees with the US on a lot of issues, but the venomous Iranian-type hatred isn't there.

So democracy, international maneuverings, and human rights record means nothing. But talk a little smack about Murica and they're Nazi Germany. Got it. Hence the irrational hatred of Iran and Venezuela.

That only means that Arabs are helping spread Islamic fanaticism to non-Arab Muslim countries. It does not mean, as you had said, that Islamic fanaticism is only a problem in the Arab world.

I didn't say it's only a problem in the Arab world, you jackass.

That article is just gibberish.

For someone who claims to value science and objectivity so highly, he used precious little of it in his analysis. I'm not saying that it wouldn't be possible to frame a compelling argument around his thesis. I'm just saying he didn't.

"For someone who claims to value science and objectivity so highly, he used precious little of it in his analysis. I'm not saying that it wouldn't be possible to frame a compelling argument around his thesis. I'm just saying he didn't."

He mentioned a few points as evidence for his argument, but obviously a one-page article is limited in what can be included. If you are interested, I recommend an entire book on the subject:
http://www.amazon.com/Closing-Muslim-Mind-Intellectual-Islamist/dp/1610170024/

“What the Arab mind does is to elect purposely to give greater weight in thought and speech to wishes rather than to reality, to what it would like things to be rather than what they objectively are.”
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Sounds like the thought process that led to affirmative action and lowering lending standards so people who were objectively unqualified for a mortgage could become 'homeowners'.

"Sounds like the thought process that led to affirmative action and lowering lending standards so people who were objectively unqualified for a mortgage could become 'homeowners'."

Yes. Some people in the West (especially leftists) have irrational thought processes.

I wonder where the Mussies got the idea of chopping off babies' penises and torturing them.

Revenge, saving face, and envy are anchor points of the Middle Eastern mind....

If your camel and goats die, what do you pray to Allah for?

That your neighbors' does too!

AT LAST we are getting onto it?

This is exactly what I have been talking about, for some time now.