I know most of you are virgins still but I just want to throw this out there to help you out.
I want to let you know that you should stop giving a shit about romantic love because it dies, it always dies, and married couple you see has simply found someone they are comfortable with and loved at one point, but now simply trust each other and live together because that's just what they do. The only real love in this world is the love of your children and your parents. Once you have kids you'll realize that the love you feel for your significant other is a total joke compared to the love you feel for your child. You can never love another human as much as you love your child. I love my wife, she's incredible to me and great to my son, but if she died I'd be more upset that my son no longer had a mother, I'd be able to easily keep going, if I lost my son I'd find the nearest building and jump off as fast as I could. There's nothing stronger than the love for your child, so don't get hung up on bitches because you'll stop giving a shit about them once they have your child.

Why the fuck did you have children you dolt.
All they do is cost money and deliver no material gain from what they cost you.

>>1
The problem is getting there in the first place.

>>2
There is honestly nothing more worth having in this world than a son of your own to love and teach and care for. Nothing is more fulfilling. Nothing is better.

>>4
That's what poor people think.
Get a mercedes, a good hooker, and some blow and you'll love all those things more than kids

>>4
I hope to one day meet your son, put him in a nice dress, and fuck him in the ass until cum dribbles out of his little dick.

>>5
I've got an 80 inch curved 4k tv, a bmw, an insanely gorgeous white wife and an awesome dog. Plenty of other cool shit too.
Would throw that shit in the trash for my boy, any time any day.

>>6
That would be your first time eh?

>>5
But man, like, doing that thing all animals do because of biological impulses is like, so fucking fulfilling.

>>7
No you don't, because you'd like the things that give to you more than what takes away.
You're just a beta dad who drives a Honda CR-V

>>8
Lol, no. But thanks for thinking your kid's ass would be worth a good first fucking.

>>9
Well in the animal kingdom a male doesn't stay with the children.
And when the Male animal leaves, he doesn't need to pay child support

Couldnt ever feel love...
maybe if my daughter ist born.
still hopin

>>10

implying there's anything wrong with a honda cr-v

legit all cars do the same thing, as long as it runs and honestly your dream car wouldn't be able to fit my drumset and guitar amps in so I don't want it anyway. I drive a land rover most the time, the bmw is for special occasions.

>>14
Honda CR-V is ass, it just advertises that you are a life-over human being who has hypnotized himself into thinking a family is worthwhile.

>>1
Also proton: most girls love to unleash their inner slut but they don't like people to find out and they don't like to feel responsible for their actions

So if you can treat her like a slut on the down low and give her girl brain a chance to rationalize her behavior you are golden t nigga.

>>15
Better than going through life knowing that no one cares about you, no one needs you, no one wants you, no one thinks about you ever. Nigger you think having a mercedes makes you the #swagmaster or some shit? It's probably some junky 80's hunk of shit with a bad paintjob. The blow is you trying to escape your inner pain, I don't need drugs to be happy.

>>17
No, the blow allows me to stay up all night and fuck who I want, when I want.
I love how you're trying to defend your lifelong mistake of having children. Children bring NOTHING. No money, no comfort, nothing.
Not having a child will save about $300,000 over the next 18 years. Have fun living in a suburb with no fun.

>>18

I don't have kids but let me tell you how it feels to have kids!

You're a child, you'll stay a child until you have a child and raise that child. Enjoy being 5 years old forever you sad lonely fellow.
I don't need $300,000. I need my son, and you need a son but you're too selfish and immature to become a man.

>>19
Now why would you turn away $300,000?
It's because you're a pleb who assigns value to non-material things that help you get nowhere in life.
How have you allowed yourself to become this stupid?
A man is a man before kids. He is weak when he has kids. A marine who has no children is a kid to you, by your flawed logic.

>>20
Because coke and hookers get you somewhere in life.
What's your definition of "being somewhere in life"?
Mine is having responsibility and succeeding in the care of that responsibility.
A marine with no kids is a child, yes. Killing someone or being shot at does not make you a man in any way. I respect what military members do for our country, but simply being in the military does not make you a man.
The simple fact is that you've never been lucky enough to find a woman you're comfortable with, a woman who you know loves you, a woman you can trust, you've never found a romantic love and therefore have coasted through life without the most important things within a life. I don't blame you for being ignorant to things that you simply weren't lucky enough to have.

>>20
Different anon. What are you gonna do with the 300000? Waste it gradually like you always do and achieve nothing in the end then die alone? Or leave a legacy with your name by raising a kid to carry on after you die.

>>21
You are the true beta male. The type to get friend zoned by prostitutes.
You felt a void in your life, and rather than filling it with meaningful accomplishments, you decided to take the lazy man's route and just fuck some bitch in an attempt to fill a physical void with emotional bullshit.
Birth is free and easy. Working your ass off for an investment job that pays well enough to let you travel and keep an interesting lifestyle is the hard route. If you think you're a man for doing something that any old dipshit can do, then off yourself now. You did the most basic thing ever. Congratulations. No have a sticker

>>22

Legacy
Dumb 12 year old who will live a $40-60k lifestyle

sounds life the timeless legend that will be told throughout the ages.
When I die, Friends and contacts will miss me. I will leave a benefactor in my will, and that is what will live on. Not some average at best kid.

>>23
Any old dipshit can raise a child into a proper adult? Because that's why there are so many worthless fucks like you out there in this world, fathers that aren't good and mothers that are weak. You are the product of your parents failures, congratulations.
Also this guy thinks getting hookers is alpha. No one who has ever been worth a shit has ever paid for sex, ever.

>>19

you need a son

Fucking breeders. "you can't know real life until you can't live it anymore"

>>26
The issue here is that you don't stop living after you have a child, you start living for a reason. Until you have kids you just exist, simply existing is not living a life, once you have a child you live for something.

>>25
Steve Jobs
Lyndon Johnson
Bill Gates
Bill Clinton
JFK
JFK's Father
J.P. Morgan
the list goes on.
Nice try dipshit. Learn about how successful people lived before you make generalizations.
An Alpha Male is one who has sex with multiple females, as seen in the animal kingdom.
A beta male is one that gets attached to one and lets her control him (i.e. kids, anniversary, etc.)
How does it feel to not be in control of your own life? Pretty pitiful if you ask me.

>>27
I do live for something nigga. I create novel things of use. I make artificial intelligence in styles that no one has ever conceived. I design alternate realities that are profitable to logic constructs and then build them.

The point is that you failed to make meaning for yourself, pussed out, and let nature define your existence via a kid. What a fucking faggot.

>>1

mfw i realized all this when I was a sophomore in highschool

things have changed too much. majority men and women are shallow whores. love doesn't exist

>>27
No, when you have kids, you are just a dog doing what they ask. You are a slave. You let someone walk all over you. That is not living.
When I see a man with two children, I see how tired he is, and the money problems that the family will have in the future.

>>1
so, the 35 years between my mother and father that ended when she passed away, after my parents raised a child with lukemia, going through house fires and a lawsuit means nothing? my parents were a pillar of the local community. my father was a strong man who had lived through vietnam, he fucking crumbled when she died. he literally fell to the floor bawling his eyes out when she passed. Fuck you OP. you dont know shit. you married the wrong person if you think you can simply move on after she dies.

I have been married for ten years to the same woman. I have two children and more on the way. If my wife died, I would be fucking lost. I have served in the military. I recieved a silver star in service to my country. I am not a weak man. Losing her would destroy me if it weren't for my children.

>>32

addendum

Losing my kids would hurt me worse than my wife, but i would lose part of myself if she died in a way my children will never affect me.

>>28
I get to fuck my wife in whatever way I want, whenever I want, I get to bring other girls into the bedroom with us, I get to work whatever job I want and teach my child all the lessons that I want to teach him. My wife does nothing to control me or the way I live. She makes good money too that I can spend on whatever the fuck I want. I could quit my job tomorrow and live off her income for the rest of my life if I wanted to, maybe I should. That's what an alpha would do right, just take advantage?

>>28
Stop talking about the animal kingdom, it makes you sound like a retard. Alpha and beta are just terms for relative power struggles.
You know what's alpha? Deciding you want something, and going out to get it. If that something is a longterm romantic relationship, that doesn't make you beta unless you fail.

>>29,31

itt lonely people trying to justify their lonely existence by insulting the more meaningful lives of others in a purely defensive and butthurt fashion.

>>1

stop giving a shit about romantic love because it dies

Correct.
thats why you just don't get serious with that bitch. have fun enjoy it, but know that like a sickly dog, you will have to put it down at some point soon.

>>34
As long as she's okay with it and you contribute to the relationship still in meaningful ways it'd be a good move. If you're just going to potato, that's not really an alpha move, it's a NEET one.

>>25

No one who has ever been worth a shit has ever paid for sex, ever.

Tell that to the thousands of disfigured males that seek out prostitutes as their only means of experiencing sex and intimacy. Tell them their not worth a shit just because their physical body is damaged.

Or on the other side of the coin, every powerful man politically and financially ever, have hired escorts since the dawn of man..

>>39
Yeah going to say if you can't get sex for free then you're a beta.

>>32
Once you become a little more mature you'll realize what you have with your wife you can also have with someone else. You won't know this until she cheat on your or if she dies or something like that, in the mean time I'm sure you believe what you do and nothing can take that away from you.. I hope you'll never have to wake up from it.

>>40
So if you take a grenade to save your buddies and get mangled including your face for life, you're then a beta?

Me and the wife have been together for 22 years now and the love is real so OP you're wrong..also we have no kids and plan on keeping it that way,that mess would just get in our way.

>>43
Yeah because you'd realize you don't really love her you love being with her you love having her around but you don't love her you won't spend your time thinking about her or missing her you'll spend all your time thinking about your children because that's where the real love is. You don't know any different because you're an idiot who is choosing to live life without the only thing worth living life with.

Wife > Child

If this is reversed, you did something wrong because you can pick your partner, but your kid is just chance as to whether he's cool or not. Also, for a loooong time, he isn't interesting to talk to because he's a stupid fucking child.

>>45
You genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. One day you'll look back on this comment you've made and realize how stupid you look.