Liberals are the only ones that are interested in his existence. That is the reason that they are the only ones who ever talk about him. Him being your villain does not make him our hero. Regardless of all nasty stuff he has done since the trail does not change the fact that he was defending himself against Martin. If you think otherwise, where is your evidence? I am dying to hear it. If you can't prove it, drop it. Stop acting like him doing bad things now is proof of his guilt.

The left's obsession with this guy has confirmed something that I have long suspected. Liberals are not concerned with facts, they are concerned with narrative. That is why they NEVER talk about the facts of the case and bring recent happening thinking that doing so is going proves something.

Whom?

No but I love pointing out he owned Obama and the libs

Hilarious

Zimmerman's behavior is proof he was a fucked up troublemaker looking for shit to get into rather than a concerned citizen and should not have harassed Martin to begin with. He may have been defending himself once the fight began, but he's was the instigator of the situation and is morally responsible for Martin's death if not legally.

And conservatives did hold him up as a hero, but since he's become an embarrassment, you're acting like you never cared about him...well, I call bullshit.

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should not have harassed Martin to begin with

Martin's was trespassing outside Zimmerman's home within a gated community, no doubt looking to commit a crime, possible Murder, raped or home invasion.

Oh, him. If he'd been black you'd never heard of him and wouldn't care.

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Well being a Peruvian doesn't make him white.

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Well, yeah. If he'd been black, he would've been arrested that very night.

Tupac dead, Biggie dead...arrests made? Black on black crime goes unsolved everyday.

but he's was the instigator of the situation and is morally responsible for Martin's death if not legally.

your evidence for that claim?

Tupac dead, Biggie dead...arrests made?

The shooters were brought in for questioning and sent home without so much as a tox screen?

Good police work.

Anyway, the only big story nowadays is if a white kills a black.

The uncontested facts of the situation (namely, that he got out of his car with a firearm to pursue someone for no real reason).

Isn't that the thing that a neighborhood watch coordinator is supposed to do. This wasn't teh only time he called police reporting suspicious activity.

Isn't that the thing that a neighborhood watch coordinator is supposed to do.

Except he had nothing to do with the Neighborhood Watch organization. He was a self proclaimed armed vigilante.

Wrong. The neighborhood watch organization that he coordinated was administered by the local police.

You are correct and suzique is wrong as usual.

Zimmerman was definitely involved in Neighborhood Watch.

Zimmerman was in charge of recruiting block captains for a neighborhood watch program and, after having been asked, was also part of a group to enforce parking rules in his community.

The president of the homeowners association for the community where the shooting took place testified that he didn't think a neighborhood watch program was needed and that Zimmerman was in charge of the community's program from the very beginning.

Donald O'Brien stressed that the homeowners association had nothing to do with the neighborhood watch program but that he did attend a meeting to start it. Residents were told to "stay away" from suspicious people and call police, O'Brien said.

He said he once text messaged Zimmerman with praises for a group of workers who followed a burglar. Their actions led to the arrest of a young black man, who was charged with burglaries in the neighborhood, O'Brien said.

O'Brien added that police indicated it was acceptable to follow suspicious persons at a safe distance. He also said he signed an agreement with police to increase patrol of the area and to tow illegally parked cars.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/06/25/zimmerman-trial-trayvon-neighborhood-watch/2455163/

But that is a red herring anyway. The legality of his actions did not hinge on Neighborhood Watch.

That happens everyday in the hood.

That is not uncontested at all. He contests he got out of his vehicle to look for a street sign, and only technically followed Martin a short distance in order to cut through.

I don't know whether these are deliberate lies by your side or ignorance. I suspect the former.

He organized the local neighborhood watch, and his involvement was acknowledged and discussed in the trial and is a matter of record. Whether the local watch was recognized by national organizations, I do not know.

Whether the local watch was recognized by national organizations, I do not know

immaterial.

somebody commits burglaries around here, and I decide to form my own one-man watch service (whether his was one-man or not, again, immaterial) and I go out to try to find out who, so I can turn them in to police, or at least to deter/prevent further crimes.
No crime in any of that.Which law is broken? None.

so I wear a gun on my hip for protection, which was either legal, or illegal. For Zimmerman, it was legal. So I carry any other weapon, which is either legal, or illegal, so I make sure whatever I carry what is legal, legally.

So far,in ANY of that, no crime has been committed.

Zimmerman, we know,or know of,it cannot even be alleged, committed no crime in following , alighting from vehicle, and approaching Martin, and speaking to him.

From there, a violent quarrel, a violent attack took place, by Martin , on Zimmerman. No doubt a fight took place, no doubt Zimmerman incurred injuries consistant with his story.
As Zimmerman tells it, the fight was Martin's idea.
All known facts are consistent with that.
Zimmerman's account is completely plausible.It matches facts and evidence.

Where is the case against that, in favor of Zimmerman murdered Martin?
There never was one even existed.
He should never have been charged, but we know why he was.

Same reason Holder sent a posse to Ferguson.

That is not uncontested at all. He contests he got out of his vehicle to look for a street sign, and only technically followed Martin a short distance in order to cut through.

I don't know whether these are deliberate lies by your side or ignorance. I suspect the former.

Oh, I thought you didn't care, however:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman.html#document/p2/a49098

The 9-11 dispatcher told Zimmerman to not follow the suspect. Zimmerman claims, after the fact, he was looking for an address when he started moving against orders, but he does seem, per the transcript to know where he's at. Zimmerman was not even on patrol that night, even so he should have used his citizen's patrol training and let the police arrive and take care of the "situation," which, as it turned out, was a kid doing nothing wrong until Martin, I daresay, felt threatened by Zimmerman and stood his ground.

Oh, I thought you didn't care,

I care about facts.

I would encourage you to read the rest of the transcript as it disproves many of your claims.

felt threatened by Zimmerman

Martin felt threatened by Zimmerman(at least according to you even though you weren't there). Zimmmerman had large cuts on the back of his head, a broken nose, and other injuries. Why is his alleged "feelings" of a bigger instigating factor then his violent actions?

Zimmerman felt that Martin was behaving suspiciously and called the police to report it. Does that justify Martin slamming his head into the ground?

stood his ground.

Wow. Liberals really love that phrase don't they. Even thought it had NOTHING to do with this case.

Facts? So you say you're interested in facts, right? I mean, I don't want to misunderstand you or any thing. OK, it's facts then.

Here's a fact. The presence of cuts on the back of Zimmerman's head says (stay with me now) ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about who physically attacked who first, independent of either Zimmerman, or Martin's account. At best, that objective piece of "evidence" can only confirm that at some point during the fight, Zimmerman received wounds on that part of his body. THAT is a fact.

Since Martin's account cannot be given, Zimmerman's must be thrown out. Neither participant has any special standing to make his word more or less trustworthy than the other, so objective physical evidence is all that can be fairly used. The physical evidence only proves what Zimmerman did before the confrontation (911 tapes), and that there was a fight that ended with Zimmerman injured, and Martin dead by a gunshot fired by Zimmerman.

Those are the facts.

Here's a fact. The presence of cuts on the back of Zimmerman's head says (stay with me now) ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about who physically attacked who first,

Martins injuries consisted only of the gunshot wound and bruises on his knuckles. What does that tell you?

Martins injuries consisted only of the gunshot wound and bruises on his knuckles. What does that tell you?

It tells me that Martin's injuries consisted only of the gunshot wound, and bruises on his knuckles.

See? That's how FACTS work.

EDIT: I've got to go watch a football game now. But, if you want to continue this, I'll be happy to tell you some more about facts later.

Deductive reasoning isn't your strong suit is it?

Zimmerman claims, after the fact, he was looking for an address when he started moving against orders, but he does seem, per the transcript to know where he's at.

It shows that he knows a series of directions from one point, it doesn't show he knows where he is at in terms of a street name that would be clearer for the dispatcher. So try again...

Yeah unlike blacks, we don't give a crap to defend someone simply because of his color. Blacks will defend every criminal simply because of race.

Also, here's some news for ya.

Trayvon was a thug. He was a thief and was stopped by school officials with a backpack full of women's jewelry and burglarizing tools.

Michael Brown was another thug POS who had just robbed someone and evidence showed he attacked Wilson. He got what he deserved.

Freddie Gray was a career crack dealer.

McDonald was a drug addict high on PCP, slashing people's tires and waving around a knife.

The fact that they were killed doesn't make them "good people." They were total pieces of crap yet blacks idolize them and the liberal media puts graduation pictures up of them to try and falsely portray them as "good people."

The right winger were all to happy to support Zimmerman , even with money for his lawyer expenses. If they are backing off now it is because Zimmerman has proven that he is the thug!

Zimmerman was an oaf who made many mistakes the night he killed Trayvon Martin. But he did not violate any laws that night. Some propagandists, including some on this board, spread lies about him, asserting that he was guilty for whatever fabricated reason. But an impartial multi-racial jury unanimously ruled that he was not guilty after carefully reviewing the actual evidence, not internet rumors and propaganda. End of story.

And it was a conservative who started this thread...end of story about "do NOT car[ing.]"

do NOT car[ing.]

I made this post because I am sicks liberals posting about everything that Zimmerman does. As I stated in my OP, it is irrelevant to what happened in 2012.

I seem to remember Sean Hannity treating him like a folk hero.

I seem to remember Sean Hannity treating him like a folk hero

Hannity also performed verbal felattio on Cliven Bundy.

Old Sean loves him some racists.

LOL. Liberal media treats every black thug like they were some innocent angel and never show the real picture of them. Hell, with Trayvon they were showing pictures of him as a 12-year old blowing out birthday candles. Gimme a break.

They showed Michael Brown and the other thugs in graduation cap and gowns. It's pathetic. They incite all of these riots with their coverage and propaganda.

you're right..

it never did matter what George Zimmerman was, he was not on trial charged with being George Zimmerman....all known facts were completely consistant with his own story, whereby

1.he spotted, followed for a bit, and then initiated a conversation with Martin about burlgaries.
2.Martin jumped his ass with a flurry of blows and then when Zimmerman went down, followed him down and speedballed his skull against the pavement, this attack could very easily have been fatal, from the first blow struck Zimmerman could easily have hit back of his skull on pavement fatally.
3. to terminate this attack, Zimmerman draws weapon, and shoots Martin.

I'd have done exact same thing.

the same kind of thing happens in the hood black on black every day of the week, but the usual posse , black Sharpie and white liberal, want to make something of it because Zimmerman is other than black.
Not white, btw...does not look much more like me than Martin did, frankly. I'm not biased to or against either of them.

Martin is a violence-worshipping hood-rat that was evicted from their home by his own mother , even she felt threatened by him, that was a salient fact that the hanky-dabbers never seemed to get around to bringing up.
Everything is consistant with simple self-defence, case closed.

Virtually every conservative here praised him as a hero when he murdered that boy.

A few, but your fantasy is mostly incorrect. most defended a non-conviction because of martin's actions.

yup, that's all there was. Facts and evidence. Not race.

Zimmerman is not my hero. Zimmerman is just some guy who got in a fight with a violent punk, and survived.

the "usual (con) suspects" around here rallied to the defense of the man they believed to be [white] Jew. When the first pic of him hit the news and it was obvious that he was Hispanic they were stuck. They had to continue defending him, but they changed their rhetoric about the crime being "black on white" to trying to blow it off as "minority on minority."

When the issue wouldn't go away they did what they always do: side AGAINST the black guy.

After a trial, a jury decided there wasn't enough evidence to convict Zimmerman and the "usual (con) suspects" saw this as vindication of their position and have since continued in their demonization of Martin as a "no good thug" while holding Zimmerman up as an example of a [close enough to be white] guy who was "done wrong" by the system (and the "libs") and has had his life ruined because of them.

Is he a hero to them? Ostensibly... no, but secretly, some of them probably wish they'd had a chance to be him so they could get away with killing a black guy.

Poor George Zimmerman. If he hadn't been a bigot... if he had just stayed in his vehicle... if he had just realized that he wasn't a real cop... Martin might be alive and Zim would probably not have had all the troubles since